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Run Summary

Our goal tonight was to complete Trial of the Crusader, but unfortunately we didn't even get back to the point we reached last week.

Character

Class

Role

Furgin

Warrior

Tank

Atlassia

Pally

Tank

Thatrayna

Priest

Heals

Carlfish

Pally

Heals

Zaphiran

Druid

Heals

Moonburn

Hunter

DPS

Boorunn

Rogue

DPS

Calypto

Warrior

DPS

Deadheart

Death Knight

DPS

Gondel

Warrior

DPS

Northrend Beasts

We wiped a number of times (three?) on this fight before finally beating it. The biggest issue was Icehowl's charge, with him hitting raid members and enraging a fair few times. We also hit a hard enrage timer on one attempt.

Lord Jaraxxus

An easier fight, we completed this on the first attempt.

Faction Champs

We attempted this once and gave up after we wiped. Although the DPS were focussing on the tree, it was being healed for more than we were DPSing it for, leading to a very long fight with no progress being made. One by one, they picked us off, until we were all dead and the enemy mobs were still at full health.

Notes

  • Not enough DPS. Moar dots.
  • Not enough class variety, especially being heavy on melee DPS.
  • Carl's feedback (from the run planning page comments): 
    The good:
    * Three-healing works
    * The tanking was great.
    * We one-shotted Jaraxxus

The bad:
    * Insufficient DPS. Three of the dps were in the low 2ks. Longer fights mean more scope for error. We also couldn't burn down the druid 
in faction champs but that was due to more than just dps
    * Not enough class variety. All but one of the DPS were melee (slower to switch to snobolds, all within range of a single poison splash) 
and another couple of classes could have brought more buffs
    * Still a lot of standing in the fire, especially people with the fire AOE debuff in Acidmaw/Dreadscale running through the raid
    * We rushed into faction champs because we were losing people, without making sure anyone was interrupting the priest, etc.
    * Between the time taken to start and the early finish, we only really got one hour of raiding

Between 1 and 2, I think if we'd had a different pug healer and had Zaph bring his mage we'd have had a very different night (provided Zaph 
didn't stand in the fire bombs :) ).

Something minor:
    * When there's one boss and two tanks (Gormok, Icehowl) it'd be nice if the tanks still said on vent when they were swapping aggro. 
Makes it easier to know who to beacon/shield/etc.
  • Video of the Jaraxxus fight:
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  1. Jan 21, 2010

    Penny Wyatt (Jirra/Atlassia)

    My personal notes:

    • Off-tanking of the adds in the Jaraxxus fights was fail (see video above). The infernals spawned all over the place, and even when I managed to get a taunt off on each of them, I often didn't have time to solidify aggro on each one because I was too busy running after the next one. Even when I did have aggro on them, they didn't necessarily follow me. Couple that with the random charges and trying to keep them away from everyone else, and it was a mess. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
    • Raid leader should have priority on Vent. Obviously we don't know if we're about to overtransmit, but if we do, we should then be silent and let Furgs repeat what he said. There were also a few cases of people repeating what other people have just said (e.g. the Mistress of Pain spawn).
    • There seemed to be a number of times when Furgs asked people to do things and they didn't do it. Is it because they didn't hear, didn't understand, couldn't do it, or thought that it didn't apply to them? (e.g. Cally didn't DPS the Mistress because she thought that, being on interrupt duty, "all dps" didn't include her). I don't think anyone's wilfully disobedient so it would be nice to sort out any other similar misunderstandings.

    1. Jan 21, 2010

      Andrew Lui (lolzcat)

      A suggestion because you asked for suggestions (smile)

      • Off-tanking of the adds in the Jaraxxus fights was fail (see video above).

        Could you have switched roles with Furgs on that fight? Warriors are a more mobile tanks than pallies. Furgs could have just charged around picking them all up.

    2. Jan 22, 2010

      Furgin

      Couple that with the random charges and trying to keep them away from everyone else, and it was a mess. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

      I agree with Andrew, we can swap roles in this fight if you want, Warriors are more mobile (three charges FTW) which might make it easier. Could be a nice change at least.

      Raid leader should have priority on Vent.

      I'll make sure to clear vent before we start an encounter. I'll be more clear about who is talking and who isn't during the encounter. If we find pugs not following these guidelines I'll mute them during encounter.

      There seemed to be a number of times when Furgs asked people to do things and they didn't do it.

      In some cases this is because we are diverging from the generally accepted strategy. Usually all melee will stay on Jaraxxus to interrupt the Fell Fireball. We weren't doing that so we should explain it clearer before the fight. I think the case you point out wasn't helped by Gonel speaking on vent about what to do.

      In other cases it was people not listening or couldn't hear (am I loud enough?). I expect at least all the ANB members to be comfortable with our strategy for each of these fights and if not speak up before the encounter to say so. Unfortunately the case I'm thinking of involves a person that I don't think reads the web site much!

      1. Jan 22, 2010

        Boorunn (richard)

        Hey guys,

        Thanks for last nights runs. It was great fun and challenging .I was unable to hear a lot of the instructions for the last 15 minutes as my wife came home and was talking to me the whole time. I could not tell you verbally or type. I knew i could play till around 10, but she got home early and i still wanted to help out the raid.
        Sorry for not peforming up to scratch and listening to the helpful instructions at the end.
        thursday is not me WOW night and was lucky to be on as long as i was.
        Maybe i will just type WA WA WA (wife agro) which means i cant talk and cant listen well.

        Somehow playing WOW and wearing headphones means..... honey, please tell me all about your day.

        Thanks again guys, I really enjoy our runs together

  2. Jan 21, 2010

    Moonburn (Pete de Zwart)

    Cool video, shows the weird threat mechanics of the adds a bit.

    1. Jan 22, 2010

      Penny Wyatt (Jirra/Atlassia)

      Rewatching it, I think my new favourite quote is "Get away from me, you pansy!"